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[edit] English Quality

Interesting guide, I will definitely have to try it out. However I do have a few suggestions. Could someone PLEASE re-write this article? There were enough grammatical errors on this page for me question if this person even knew what he was talking about in general. I fixed a few errors myself today but much of the article is poorly written and confusing. I'm sure you know what you’re talking about when it comes to computers but please take an English composition class ASAP. SrZ

Thank for the advice SrZ, but as I'm a french guy with just a little bit of english notions, I'm trying to do the best I can. But I'm sure that you are clever enough to get around these errors and just take the best from my post. I'm sorry for the inconvenience my poor english brings and I will try to improve my writing in future posts.

PANIC BUKAKE

[edit] Boot Question

"The trial version of Disk Director should allow you to make the bootable CD necessary for this step but I can't verify that at this precise moment." --can anyone confirm that? Thanks.


Excelent guide, one question though: does this method require you to boot from a cd and change the active partition each time you want to switch operating systems? And if so, would it be possible to use a bootloader with this method to simplify the dual-booting part?


Thanks for the guide :) I'm almost finnished d/loading the VMWare image and cant wait to try it out. You could just as easly use any external HD/mp3 player like an ipod to also store the image on before copying back to your new partition on the main disk... Just go back into itunes when u're done, an it'll restore it back to what it was like before you dd'ed the image onto it, otherwise just run the software update and then go an load the music back onto it... pB



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1. I don't know about Disk Director, I don't use that.

2. No you don't have to change the active partition each time, the OSX boot loader will give the control to the partition you select but will retain it's ability to be the first partition to be read on boot sequence on that HDD.

3. There is no need for an external bootloader with this method even less for VMWare as Win XP can be installed on the same computer. There is a boot loader included with OSX86, just press F8 on the boot delay (default 8 sec.) and a simple text line style bootloader will appear. Use up and down buttons to select your OS (Windows is named NONAME but it's it).

PANIC

[edit] Simple!?

I don't know how this got the title "Simple Dual Boot"!

nor How I Installed OSx86 and Windows for Dual Booting, the Simple Way

This is extremely long and daunting!

Check this guide out first: Install_On_A_Partition_Simple_And_Accurate



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??? "This is extremely long and daunting!" -> It's mainly installing OSX on a computer and changing the active partition from Win XP one to the OSX one, so for long and daunting, i've seen worse (like reinstalling Windows).

If you have read the requirements, it is said that you need the JAS 10.4.6 install, if it's working on your computer, you should be OK. If not, it's not my fault.

BTW, I've looked at the guide you recommend to, that is long and complicated!

PANIC

[edit] Volume Erasing

I keep getting the error: "Volume Erase failed with the error: could not write partition map" Any ideas? I looked in disk info for it and it looks like journaling isn't enabled. Do I have to enable that before I can format it to os x extended (journaled)? It also won't let me mount the disk, which I assume is what I need to do to enable journaling. Any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated.


Answer

I don't know what's the reason but there is a solution: in windows you can use disk management to create an unallocated space then 1)go start, run 2)type “diskpart” 3)then in diskpart (looks like command prompt) 4)type “list disk” 5)then type “select disk x” x is the disk the unalloc. partition is in 6)then type “create partition primary id=af” 7)then you have a partition that is already mac journaled

If you have a partition just delete it: select partition x; delete

After that in Disk Utility you can erase no problem.

[edit] New version of iMac

I followed your installation guide and every thing worked as advertised.

I had a dual boot apple iMac / Windows XP working system on a two year old Dell Pentium computer with 1 gig of memory.

However as soon as I allowed Apple to update the software with the latest version of the software - as of today (18-Nov_2006) the apple side would not start.

I removed all the Apple software and am back to a Windows XP system

Phil


Hi Phil! Don't forget that you are running a "Stolen Program" so don't try to update until you buy a real mac (as I will do). So you can reinstall and work with your "Mac/PC" but don't bother to update, just run the program as-is and try to get around the little inconveniences you can encounter. You can check on torrent for a file to update from 10.4.7 version to 10.4.8, my update is from JAS and worked flawlessly. Again, I say it's a STOLEN PROGRAM so don't look at Apple to support your program.

BTW, don't call Mac OS X as iMac, it brings confusion because a iMac is an original Apple computer bought at an apple store. It can run Mac OS X natively. The operating System you are talking about is called "Mac OS X"

PANIC

[edit] undoing?

Anyone know how to undo this? I don't have the need just yet, but what would I have to do if I wanted to get rid of the OS X partition and just go back to having only Windows on my machine...

As I understand it, all I would have to do is make the Windows partition the 'active partition' again right?


ANSWER

It's quite simple, follow the step to change the active partition to the Mac OSX one, but by changing it instead to the Win XP one. After that, you can erase the partition through the Win XP Disk utility.

PANIC


[edit] FAT32

Is it necessary to make your WinXP partition FAT32? The only thing I am going to be using my Windows partition for is games that will only run from windows, so I don't think I really need to use FAT32 just so the mac os can write to the other partition. It also would be simpler to do since my Windows XP disc only formats in NTSC :/


Answer

No, it's not necessary to make your partition FAT 32. If your CD/DVD writer isn't functionning under Mac, don't forget that you will not get the chance to transfer your data to your Win partition to burn it because if OS X can read NTFS drive, it can't write on such a drive. Another option would be to have a third partition in FAT 32 and using it to transfer information between the two OS (In fact I have 6 partition on 2 disks: disk 1 -> OS X (HFS)/ WIN XP (NTFS), disk2 -> VM partion for OS X (HFS)/ VM partition for Win XP (NTFS)/ DATA partition (F32)/ iTunes partiton (F32)).

PANIC


[edit] New User

hi ,

these days mac is also lots in the news so i thought i would also try it . can you please tel me from were to download the mac OS ? ..u have given all the procedures for installation but you have not given me any link for downloading the very main software.


Answer

If you look exactly for "JAS 10 4 8 OSx86 10 4 8 Patched DVD SSE3" on the internet you should find something. Note that you may be more comfortable to use a SSE3 capable Intel processor, if you have another processor (northwood), then check for SSE2 instead of SSE3.

PANIC

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[edit] Is there a CD version of the Mac OS X, or is it only made for a DVD?

Hi, I'm planning on giving your guide a try soon, and I have the OSX downloaded, but I just realized that my DVD drive doesn't have a burn funtion for DVDs (it's a new computer so I wasn't aware.)

So with that said, is there a version of the operating system that can be put on multiple regular CDs, instead of on one DVD? As of right now, the only thing I can burn are CDS.

Thanks in advance for any info. . . .

Yet a simpler solution: - instal Windows (XP in my case) on small partition (20GB*, this will be the first partition) - and Norton ghost it to image on an external drive, - instal OS X as normal, setting two partitions: HFS+ and FAT (this > 20GB*), - Norton ghost the WinXP partition back to the FAT one (this second one). That's all, hiting a space at boot (instead of F8) will give you a choice: OS X or XP. Perhaps somebody has solution: how to change the default booting order?

[edit] A simpler solution yet:

A simpler solution: - instal Windows (XP in my case) on small partition (20GB*, this will be the first partition) - and Norton ghost it to image on an external drive, - instal OS X as normal, setting two partitions: HFS+ (MBR) and FAT (this > 20GB*), - Norton ghost the WinXP partition back to the FAT one (this second one). That's all, hiting a space at boot (instead of F8) will give you a choice: OS X or XP. Perhaps somebody has solution: how to change the default booting order?


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